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The Sorrow v/s Kasigi Omi: completed

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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2011, 04:02:33 am »

While I respect your decision, your logic isn't really sound at some points. Thus I decided to answer some of your points. You probably won't change your opinion, but I think this will show you that I do know what I was doing.

Sorrow: reply 1:
~Quarterstaff to base of Omi's neck
I feel that placing yourself so close to your opponet that you can hear him breathing denies him the ability to detect you and move away. And in an opening post you have virtually character controlled his placement in the field of battle, frozen his movemnts, and come in for the strike.

Just because it's aimed at this spot doesn't mean it'll hit. You can also aim from a hundred yards away. If I had aimed with a bow, would you also have critizied that? As for the breathing: we are alone in an abandonned building in a battle situation where any sound stands out. The breathing thing was mostly added for the battle atmosphere, not to indicate how close I was.


Sorrow: reply 3:
~Jumps on Omi's arm [auto-hit] and runs up it to evade fist strike.[how long do you think this arm is?]
~blocks 12 kunai with spin of quarterstaff
~forms one handed kata
~swings quarterstaff at Omi's face

You are doing too many actions. How long is a quarterstaff? It's as tall as a person, correct? You can't spin it with one hand cause you would hit Omi's arm...that you are standing on...and perhaps his head as surely an enlarged fist does not mean his arm is now suddenly longer[he never posted an increase in arm length]...SO you would have to use both hands to work the staff while on Omi's arm to deflect the kunai that have risen to make the attack...AND with incredible speed for the distance from his waist to his arm is short. And they were already shooting toward you when he threw the punch.

If you couldn't swing a quarterstaff that way you could never swing it without hitting the ground. But considering that most people can infact swing a staff above them without hitting the ground it is indeed possible to swing it around you to deflect incoming attacks with enough practice. As for Kasigiomi's fist: what good is it only to enlarge the hand? The weight is too large to be swung unless you enlarge your arm as well. And you're seriously saying I am too fast when Kasigi can enlarge his fist without any handsigns and levitate 12 kunai at the same time in the blink of a moment?

next...you say before you reach your opponent [you are already standing on his arm...I assume you mean reach his face?]...you do a one handed kata and swing the quarterstaff for his head. You have yourself way too close in side the range of a quarterstaff for the movements you are attempting. Should these event occur, I feel they would have taken longer than just one smooth move...perhaps two posts?

An arm hardly qualifies as an opponent, so yes, I meant the body. That's not really that hard to understand. And considering that depending where you hold a staff it's either a long or short weapon you wield (it's not like I am waving around a 6 feet stick at one end, since a staff is normally held in the middle it's only 3 feet I actively use in either direction) so I think it would have been possible. I can understand your point though.


Sorrow: reply 5:
~one handed kata was the genjutsu Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu: false surroundings technique
I'm sorry. this just seems like the magic bunshin move to me. If you are casting a genjutsu you need to call that ahead of time. It is then your opponent's duty not to metagame. And here we have a retropost situation. Omi already took the hit to the head. Now you say it never comes.
~Fuuton: Kazekiri: Wind Cutter...
I am uncertain after you mention the genjutsu what is a discernable action of Sorrow and what is part of the illusion that you are projecting for Omi to see.
~Retreats to hide
~Summons an owl and sends it away

Ok. You did not post that you sent the kunai flying into the ground with any force, this is retroposting adding detail to a prior action. So the kunai should have no delay in rising. That might occur for another reason, but you have no right to dictate how long it would take Omi's magnetic field to accomplish the manipulation of his weapons.

The point of an illusion is actually to go unnoticed. If you write out every Genjutsu I doubt anyone would fall for them without the user using auto-hitting as I did in my last post. I clearly made a handsign and my bio says that I tend to use Genjutsu. What good is a fight where you don't even try to read your opponent...?
I admit you're right about the magnetic field though.


Sorrow: reply 7
~leather armor[good, but was this spur of the moment or stated to begin with as part of your standard gear? Maybe on your bio?]
~Builds a weapon by tying kunai with wire to your staff ends.
I am stunned why you would waste time with projectiles flying toward you to craft a weapon during battle. The kunai are projectiles...just throw them away! And then after ridding yourself of metal, you go and pick it all up again on the original staff...and evade the metal ball which is tracking that metal and retreat in to the shadow.
~Kage bo no jutsu...
Is this like Kage Shuriken no Jutsu - Shadow Shuriken Technique? This does not create duplicates of the Shuriken but allows one to hide in the shadow of another. At any rate, you have a jutsu that allows you to mulitply your bo into numerous staffs. You might want to call it something else; also it kind of borders on mokuton KG as well. I like the idea of this jutsu but I think it needs to be defined in a different way.
~Suiton: Kokuu no Jutsu", the Black Rain technique.
Should take longer to exectute. It has to rise from your body, accumulate a cloud and then rain down.

Again, too many offensive actions in one post.


I didn't sepcify what type of armour, but I think as owner it should be up to me to decide what kind of armour. I just didn't change it in my bio during the battle to be accused of cheating as I could also theoretically have switched it from metal to leather. As for the weapon I built, I was actually pursuing a plan. My opponent uses Raiton. Thus I had created a staff with a metal tip and all of them sticking in the ground. Had my opponent sent a Raiton Jutsu at me I could have hit amongst the staves and used them as lightning rods. Sure, they would have disappeared after one block but they would have fulfilled their purpose.
And yes, I messed up when I wrote Kage Bo, I forgot to add the Bunshin part in the name. And since creating bunshin of metallic weapons doesn't need a KG I think neither do I.
As I don't watch the anime, I don't really now how long it would take for the Black Rain to take effect. I just know the technique, I thought it was more along the lines of a breath technique. My mistake.

Sorrow: reply 9:
~rationale about the magnetic field.
Omi never said how large it was in the initial post. He did say the weaponry was within the field on his second post. Then you delcare here that it is not.
~owl feathers hit Omi and ignite the oil
Auto hit. The presence of the owl in the building disturbs me, you only posted that you had sent it away not that it flew up into the rafters to wait. I imagined it had left the building.

Oh so now you call the Kage bo no jutsu staves...bunshin. Let me ask you this. Omi's kunai were sailing toward the bunshin staves because of the kunai on each end...metal being drawn to metal...why didn't your bunshins go poof when they struck Omi's kunai?
~reassembling bunshin staves to form cage....
Typically when bunshin are struck they go poof. How is that going to protect you from a collapsing building?

I declared that by constantly moving around and hiding in the shadows I was out of his field. My position clearly was not the same as in the beginning. And while the auto-hit is true here I could easily re-phrase it for the same result without hitting Kasigiomi, so it's a moot point. I could have hit a nearby rock and created sparks. The strike itself dealt no damage. And you just said it yourself: you ASSUMED the owl flew away. You can't dictate what the owl should have done.
Why the Bunshin didn't go poof...? You do realize that if they disappeared after any type of contact a Kage Bunshin Shuriken wouldn't even cut an opponent as it would disappear at skin contact? Unlike Naruto the other shinobi make less but sturdier versions. The 3rd Hokage's shuriken didn't disappear even after being stuck in a wooden coffin. So I can definitely say that mine won't disappear either. It's the same with the cage: the technique this is based on used bunshin of the Adamantine staff. While the quality is not the same, the level of damage dealt to it was also significantly lower.


Sorrow: reply 11:
~Suiton: Haran Bansho: Stormy Blockage
Here you create water in the desert to rain down from the sky with what? Practice and Nature Transformation? What is that, Sage Mode? Hrm...and its inside the crumbling builing...and you retropost it to occur before Omi's Wind jutsu.
~Fuuton: Kazekiri:
Your weak element has allowed you to fire it between the staves...so where are the pieces of ceiling hiting your between the stave slots? And it defeats 60% of Omi's wind, your bunshin staves are on fire...and struck by wind...doused by water...and withstand the collapse of the building to leave you unharmed save for some of Omi's wind that got through to slice you up some. You say the cage survived the collapse but yet it is not present when we finally see you have survived....it either collpsed or is still there. Most likely the staves are destroyed way back when Omi's kunai connected with them before the cage was formed because you call them bunshin.

Since when does Nature Transformation have to do anything with Sage Mode? Nature Transformation is when a shinobi attunes his chakra to a certain element, like Naruto did with his to cut things. I did it with mine to water to counter the fact that I AM in a desert.  Nothing against the retro-acusation though.
The cage technqiue specializes in defense, you really can't apply normal bunshin logic here anymore. And yes, I didn't write how the staves disappeared after the technqiue. But since there was dust everywhere people wouldn't have seen it anyway.


Sorrow: reply 13:
~wondering about the rain.
You never posted that the effect was upon only yourself. You just stated it "...pour down from the sky, dousing the flames and drenching Shinjiro as well." And you are in a building of finite space.
~Suiton: Suitnenhofutsu: water orb prisons?
So now you have managed to catch each and every nail that this building contined, plus whatever they were attatched to, accurately despite their various speeds and sizes, in water prisons. And why didn't you take your forehead protector off several posts ago as soon as metal became an issue?
~Kokuangyo no Jutsu:
Pretty cool stuff. However...
Doesn't say a thing about the 'ghosts' being able to steal life force and have an actual physical consequence to the taget. Certainly torturous, this genjutsu...


I admit I could have defined the area of effect more clearly, but why would I use a technique like that on a burning opponent...? Normally the only water that would have reached him at his distance would have been at his feet.
I needed the water provided by my previous technique to use this. And since this technique is considered to be the water equivalent of Gaara's sand shield I think it isn't that hard to believe it could catch things aimed at me. It doesn't have to look hard where it's going.
Takin off my forehead protector simply never occured to me. Thinking back it would have been both smart, but question: did my opponent ever tell me he could control magnetic fields? No, he didn't. I only said that certain things wouldn't work as an OOC post description. Never once I SAID anything about knowing about his magentic field.
And did you actually read my last post? I specifically said that this was only possible due to my mutated Sharingan which I used in combination with the Genjutsu.


And that sums it up. I admit that I made some mistakes and got carried away with the number of actions, but that was mostly because I hate short one action posts. Considering how long I always had to wait I wanted to USE the space I had.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 08:48:19 pm »

I will read this more thouroughly and comment soon. At a glance I have to say that Auto-hitting is a big fat hairy deal in the zones so get used to 'rewording' this correctly from the get go and that it is very much not a MOOT point.

And if I have to 'assume' something from a post you make, then YOU are just not writing clearly enough. IF you do not state it in text then it does not occur.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2011, 05:58:09 pm »

First of all let me say this:
I am glad you took the time to read and reply.
Remember, Had Omi's posting been flawless, I would have advance him to round two. He also was disqualified.

Also...people are actively going to use what you write against you, and ONLY what you write, because this is how you fight with words.



Reply 1:

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Reply 1: taken from the match

He was already close to his opponent, so close that he could hear him breathing.

I did not say you AUTO HIT him, I said you CHARACTER CONTROLLED him. For an OPENING POST this is in error. You get to arrive on the field and do whatever. You do not get to make an attack at an opponent who has not even arrived. Were you the second to gain access to the field of battle, then yes, your opening post could justifiably be an attack of some sort and so be less objectionable. It's not good in either case, however by going first, you are hindered from making an attack against a foe who is not even there yet...to place your foe anywhere during an opening post is CHARACTER CONTROL.

1...you determined his place in the field
2...you determined the volume of his breathing
3...you denied him the ability to detect you before you got that close to him

CHARACTER CONTROL


Reply 3:

First...The entire move is an AUTO HIT...you did not ATTEMPT to jump on his arm, but SUCCEEDED and made several actions, too many, after doing that. SO the entire post is in error.

However:

Yes, you can swing a bo without hitting the ground. You are not on the ground. And the attack is coming from below you. You have to swing your bo below you to deflect the kunai and that motion prevents you from doing it one handed to manipulate it around the obstacle you are standing on...the arm.

Next you assume that the jutsu to enlarge his hand requires him to enlarge the arm too, and that without doing this he is not strong enough to hold up that fist.  Let me say it again...if it is not posted, it did not occur. Omi did not say he enlarged his arm length. Nor did he say how much he enlarged the fist. was it an inch? was it by 20 lbs? was it by  300 sq. ft.? You don't know, he never says. So you can't ASSUME its too heavy for him to hold up...I mean seriously...he makes a fist he can't swing? Brilliant...you also can't assume your opponent is an idiot...because you are trying to be a Jinchuuriki and if you assume your foes are idiots, and yes many of them would have been, but eventually your arrogance in understimating your foe would get you killed.

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And you're seriously saying I am too fast when Kasigi can enlarge his fist without any handsigns and levitate 12 kunai at the same time in the blink of a moment?

I said you did too many actions in one post. And Omi did not say he did anything in the blink of a moment. He did something quickly. that is what he typed. Read what is written. That is ALL you can react to.

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An arm hardly qualifies as an opponent, so yes, I meant the body. That's not really that hard to understand. And considering that depending where you hold a staff it's either a long or short weapon you wield (it's not like I am waving around a 6 feet stick at one end, since a staff is normally held in the middle it's only 3 feet I actively use in either direction) so I think it would have been possible. I can understand your point though.

I am not in the assumption making business. No, it is not hard to understand if I just ASSUME this is what you meant. But you did not specify. I can only read what you write. If you do not write it and I am forced to assume, then you have failed in being descriptive enough or in employing clarity to your posts. It is not a matter of if I am intelligent enough to read your mind and draw the obvious conclusions. I am giving you a critical critque based upon what you have written, not what appears to be logical to me or upon what you intended, based upon whatever assumptions I am forced to make due to the lack of your written word.

Additionally...remember now, Omi never posted he made his arm longer...and you take up more space than a mathematical point...so you standing on his arm, makes the distance shorter even still...than the three feet you have to work with by holding your bo in the center...you have used a bulky weapon in too close of quarters combat.

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The point of an illusion is actually to go unnoticed. If you write out every Genjutsu I doubt anyone would fall for them without the user using auto-hitting as I did in my last post.

I understand that this is a difficult thing to allow to occur. It seriously forces you to trust your opponent to act ethically. However, just because it is a genjutsu does not give you the right to auto-hit with it. Let your opponent auto-hit or metagame...that is his problem and he will be dealt with accordingly. YOUR posting has to be ethical and by the rules.

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I didn't sepcify what type of armour, but I think as owner it should be up to me to decide what kind of armour. I just didn't change it in my bio during the battle to be accused of cheating as I could also theoretically have switched it from metal to leather.

I said the use of leather armour was good. I questioned it merely as a point of clarity. This was to be a suggestion that you state things of this sort in your opening post. Then other people cannot claim it was donned for convenience to counter a particular attack.

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As for the weapon I built, I was actually pursuing a plan. My opponent uses Raiton. Thus I had created a staff with a metal tip and all of them sticking in the ground. Had my opponent sent a Raiton Jutsu at me I could have hit amongst the staves and used them as lightning rods. Sure, they would have disappeared after one block but they would have fulfilled their purpose.
And yes, I messed up when I wrote Kage Bo, I forgot to add the Bunshin part in the name. And since creating bunshin of metallic weapons doesn't need a KG I think neither do I.

Ok...It seemed like an incredible waste of time to craft a weapon in the middle of an incoming attack when casting aside the kunai would have yielded the same effect. SO I mentioned it in a quetioning manner.

Before you called them bunshin it looked like you were creating staves of wood which indeed is a Mokuton KG. Then later you call them bunshin which indeed does NOT requite a KG. However, after one strike they go poof and could not be used for the numerous protections you later claim they perform by the fact that they were indeed bunshin.

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I declared that by constantly moving around and hiding in the shadows I was out of his field. My position clearly was not the same as in the beginning.

Now, as I said in my critque, Omi did not state the size of his field. There was a vagueness on his part and a vagueness upon your part. That is why I brought it up. He says the kunai are tagerting yours, you say they are not. I found them both to be in error.

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And while the auto-hit is true here I could easily re-phrase it for the same result without hitting Kasigiomi, so it's a moot point.

AUTO HITTING is NEVER a moot point. if you could have made the same result without auto hitting, that is what you should have done.

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And you just said it yourself: you ASSUMED the owl flew away. You can't dictate what the owl should have done.

I was forced to assume because you were not clear enough in your posting, that is why I brought it up. As the reader I should NOT have to be forced to assume anything. If the owl was just waiting in the rafters, you should have put him there.

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Why the Bunshin didn't go poof...? You do realize that if they disappeared after any type of contact a Kage Bunshin Shuriken wouldn't even cut an opponent as it would disappear at skin contact? Unlike Naruto the other shinobi make less but sturdier versions. The 3rd Hokage's shuriken didn't disappear even after being stuck in a wooden coffin. So I can definitely say that mine won't disappear either. It's the same with the cage: the technique this is based on used bunshin of the Adamantine staff. While the quality is not the same, the level of damage dealt to it was also significantly lower.

1]Kage Bunshin Shuriken is a misnomer. It is not a bunshin...it is a real shuriken hiding in the shadow of another real shuriken. SO that is why they do not just go poof in that technique. No...actually Naruto's bunshin have physicality to them, they are the forbiddeen ones. They are better than the reagular bunshin and even they just go poof.

2]The Third Hokage's shuriken were like Naruto's bunshin who have the ability to actually hurt people. But, when they are struck they do indeed go poof. Omi's kunai struck your staves. They should have gone poof.

3]Now onto the Adamantine staff. This is a transformation of Enma himself. Not a bunshin of an ordinary staff. It is the Monkey King himself, not a replication of a stick with kunai tied to each end. He is able to perform transformations even in the Adamantine form to create a lattice work wall/cage type enclosure that is impervious to any attack. Now...you did not post that your staff had any powers similar to  Enma. And as has laboriously been discussed and admitted by yourself, they would have disappeared after being struck and not been available to be formed into the cage anyway...which in turn would have been burned up, as they are wooden and not been available to protect you from the collapse of the roof. And if they somehow did not burn, a collapsing building would have caused them to go poof. And even if they were real staves, you have a roof falling on you. Mere staves cannot protect you against the collapse of a building. They are not the Adamantine staff, this was not Enma.

Reply 11:

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Nature_Transformation

This is an error on my part. I saw Nature, and thought Sage mode Nature Chakra and not the use here, which is elemental nature of the chakra.

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The cage technqiue specializes in defense, you really can't apply normal bunshin logic here anymore. And yes, I didn't write how the staves disappeared after the technqiue. But since there was dust everywhere people wouldn't have seen it anyway.

By this part I see that the staves should have went poof about 4 times before the roof collapses. And even so...during the dust everywhere we see you...so why not the life saving cage?

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I admit I could have defined the area of effect more clearly, but why would I use a technique like that on a burning opponent...?

I don't know why? You never said.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Water_Release:_Water_Sky_Convergence

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From the match:

Water started to raise from the ground and formed medium sized bubbles that lazily drifted around Shinjiro. With a flick of his hand the bubbles shot forward and trapped the projectiles, the pressure and chakra flowing through them effectively halting their journey as the water lessened the control Kasigiomi had over the metal to a certain degree as well.

No actually it is not the same as Gaara's sand defence. It is silimar in that you can use it to manipulate water and to block MOST incomming attacks. IT is not an impervious defense. And the lazily drifting water bubbles of medium size surely could not catch ALL the nails and whatever debris is still clinging to some. I pointed out that some should have struck you. NONE do.

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Never once I SAID anything about knowing about his magentic field.

You are right! You never said you noticed a thing. Why is that? His magnetic field was tugging on your metal belongings including the metal froehead protector tied to your head.

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And did you actually read my last post? I specifically said that this was only possible due to my mutated Sharingan which I used in combination with the Genjutsu.

Heck no. Me read this stuff? I just copy and paste random entries I find from the back of a Reader's digest to serve as my replies. Undecided

OK ...sarcasm aside. Let's examine your mutated sharingan.

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Due to Shinjiro's mutated Sharingan he could see the spirits of the dead.

Cool!

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And if he used it in combination with a sense manipulating Jutsu, he could call those spirits to target his opponent.

So, you no longer have just a genjutsu, but you have brought a genjutsu to life with real spirits. Ah so...the sense you have manipulated is sight? Now Omi can see them too.

However...suddenly these spirits now have the ability to drain life through touch. Amazing that they never thought to do that when you guys first arrived. If spirits have this ability on their own then you are now commanding them to use it on Omi? So...that makes you like a shinigami? Or...is the sense you are manipulating sight, with the genjutsu...only those are illusions and so should have no physical consequence...or is it touch? Allowing spirits to interact on the physical plane. Uhm...which still precludes command over the dead and gives them an ability to drain life. So...I am trying to figure out where all this comes from. I examined the following:

Giving reality to Genjutsu: Izanagi...however this only works on yourself, and you have to be an Uchiha and have Senju DNA.

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From your bio:

Mutated Sharingan: Due to a birth defect his eyes never developed the Sharingan like they normally would have. They are 'active' all the time and lack the ability to copy techniques or see things in slow motion. In exchange they are immune to Genjutsu and allow him to see and interact with the spirits of the departed.

Well you have a mutated Sharingan. But that just allows you to see the dead and interact with them. It doesn't say you can imbue the spirits of the dead with powers to touch the physical world let alone drain life from the living.


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And that sums it up. I admit that I made some mistakes and got carried away with the number of actions, but that was mostly because I hate short one action posts. Considering how long I always had to wait I wanted to USE the space I had.

You had all the time and the space in the world. Instead of trying to fill it with a plethora of actions, you should have used it to carefully construct the actions you were making in such a manner as to give clarity to the reader and thereby erase all margine for doubt as to what it is you are intending.

Mistakes are fine; We all make them. I would hate to see a critical critique of one of my zone fights! Embarrassed
However, it is much easier to sit back taking my good old time to observe another's fight and find the flaws in it that it is to fight flawlessly under pressure. Look at me as one of those kind who can teach but not do? Yeah...that is me.

In Conclusion:
 

I would think that after pointing out to you instances of Auto hitting, restroposting, too many actions in one post and lack of clarity in your posting that after the first or second time of reading these from me you would be like "oh....that is what I have to clear up" rather than being like "Oh no...this is why that is no big deal and how you should have known what I meant."

Let me say it again...

If it is not written, it does not happen. WE are not allowed to assume any action, motivation or logical conclusions for anything. It must be clearly stated.

Auto-hitting is ALWAYS... bad. bad. bad.

Character Control...is bad. bad. bad.

It is your duty to erase all doubt from the reader's mind as to what your actions are.

It is the duty of your opponent to act in an ethical manner and they will be taken to task if not. Make your posts irreproachable.



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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2011, 04:33:36 am »

Reply 1: In the end both me and Omi skipped the part where we stand around doing nothing. We basically fused the first 2 posts together as I could just have attacked him the same way afterwards. Thus I do not really gain any ADVANTAGE in my eyes. I had declared the building, thus he would have had to walk inside anyway. I said he was breathing. Wow. Really, that changes the entire outcome already. And lastly: I never said I wasn't detected. In fact, Omi did detect me and he simply didn't defend himself because of his armor. And if he hadn't had sensed me he still could have sensed me the moment I jumped from the shadows. A surprise attack can be used at any time of a battle.

Reply 3: Yes, he would enlarge only his fist because that makes so much sense. As he didn't specify anything the interpretation fell to me. I also would have interpreted if I had written "Shinjiro dodged the enlarged fist." But as I was not close enough to Omi for a normal strike to reach him I think the arm was also increased in size. We all know it as the Akimichi "Baika no Jutsu".
And when we do something quickly, we normally say "he did it in a moment" or "he did it in the blink of an eye".

Reply 5: Welcome to Physics 101: Lightning always strikes the highest point. I can't really hide behind a kunai sticking into the ground. Not only would I look really stupid trying to do so but it also wouldn't work.

Reply 9: It seems you really need to read up on the Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu. This Jutsu allows you to clone a thrown Shuriken. It's how the Sandaime multiplied one thrown weapon into many which struck the coffins. What you are referring to is Kage Shuriken no Jutsu. I already said I forgot to add the Bunshin iny my post, but considering that I made clones it should be clear that I used Bo Kage Bunshin no Jutsi (or however it would be called).
And the Sandaime's shuriken did NOT go poof. After hitting the coffin a large number was stuck into it and forced it to retreat. No poofing here. Naruto's Bunshin go poof easily because he creates them in a bulk. If he created less with the same amount of chakra they would be sturdier (like the one he used against Neji, this one even bled).
If you read my profile description you'll see that my staff is nigh indestuctible. That translates as: it can take a lot of damage. A Kage Bunshin has the charcteristics as the original. Thus the bunshin, while inferior, are still enough to take a hit. And when the hell did I say they would have disappeared?
Lastly, a collapsing building isn't really that damaging. Stones can only fall on you once for each ceiling because no stone can fall from the same space twice.
So yes, my staves could protect me, as it is a Jutsu specifically designed to do that. It can't withstand an assault like Enma, but this damage was way weaker.

Reply 11: A dust cloud takes a while to settle. The cage disappeared before it had settled. It is no longer there. The dust cloud settled. Shinjiro is still there. We can't see the cage anymore. If I have to write it like this for every fight I go into I should give it up now. It kills my artistic soul to write out what no one, and I mean really no one, can misunderstand.

Reply 13: My attack can't have hit Omi. After all, I never said it aimed at him. He would have had to deliberately jump into an attack that clearly affected only me. With not a single word I said it did anything else. This both you and Omi making an assumption.
The Water Sky Convergence: While not automatical like Gaara, it still can block pretty much anything with the right amount of water. You ever see something falling into water? Its speed decreases and then it either floats or sinks to the bottom. Also, all things are aimed at ME. They can only travel in a straight line as they use magnetic fields for this. EVERYONE could have blocked this attack with a "wall" Jutsu or something similar. The water spheres didn't have much of an area to cover. They only had to cover me.


In conclusion:
My posts have to be understood by my opponent. If he exploits an opening I left in them it is my own fault. Auto-hitting is bad, but you can't put every situation in the same category. There are shades of grey.
It's not my duty to erase doubt from a random reader's mind. Both fighters can always ask for further explanation of each other, and as they are the ones fighting it should be first and foremost their business how to handle unclear situations.
Because first and foremost this is meant to be fun.

Over and Out.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 02:42:02 pm »

And thank you for erasing any doubt I had in my mind that I may have been wrong for disqualifying you.
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